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[RESOLU] Erreur de lancement jackd,jackdbus,pulseaudio et companies !

Boson197 utilisateur non connecté
Bonjour,

Je viens juste d'arriver et ceci est mon permier et épineux problème !

J'utilise Qjackctl, pulseaudio et jackd depuis quelques mois. Lors d'un mise à jour d'Ubuntu Studio vers 16.04.3 tout a basculé. Impossible de relancer Jackd avec pulseaudio et qjackctl plante au démarrage. Donc je réinstalle Ubuntu Studio 17.10 je fais toutes mes configurations habituelles mais impossible de lancer qjackctl sans que ça plante.

J'ai édité le fichier /etc/security/limits.conf pour ajouter

@audio   -  rtprio     99
@audio   -  memlock    unlimited


J'ai édité /etc/pulse/client.conf pour virer l'autospawn.

Ma carte son se trouve bien en hw:0 :
**** Liste des Périphériques Matériels PLAYBACK ****
carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 0: ALC3246 Analog [ALC3246 Analog]
  Sous-périphériques: 1/1
  Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Sous-périphériques: 1/1
  Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Sous-périphériques: 1/1
  Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
  Sous-périphériques: 1/1
  Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]
  Sous-périphériques: 1/1
  Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 10: HDMI 4 [HDMI 4]
  Sous-périphériques: 1/1
  Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0


Je désactive pulseaudio pour être tranquille avec
pulseaudio -k


Je lance Qjackctl et là ça ne fonctionne pas :

15:52:58.328 JACK démarre...
15:52:58.329 /usr/bin/jackd -P70 -dalsa -dhw:PCH -r48000 -p256 -n2
Cannot connect to server socket err = Connexion refusée
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
no message buffer overruns
15:52:58.369 JACK a été démarré avec le PID=5470.
no message buffer overruns
no message buffer overruns
jackdmp 1.9.11
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2014 Grame.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 70
self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"
audio_reservation_init
Acquire audio card Audio0
creating alsa driver ... hw:PCH|hw:PCH|256|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
configuring for 48000Hz, period = 256 frames (5.3 ms), buffer = 2 periods
ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer little-endian
ALSA: use 2 periods for capture
ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit integer little-endian
ALSA: use 2 periods for playback
15:53:05.526 Impossible de connecter le serveur JACK comme client. - L'opération a échoué. - Erreur de communication serveur. Veuillez consulter la fenêtre des messages pour plus d'informations.
JackPosixProcessSync::LockedTimedWait error usec = 5000000 err = Connection timed out
Driver is not running
Cannot create new client
Cannot read socket fd = 31 err = Succès
CheckRes error
JackSocketClientChannel read fail
Cannot open qjackctl client
JackShmReadWritePtr1::~JackShmReadWritePtr1 - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
Unknown request 4294967295
CheckSize error size = 0 Size() = 12
CheckRead error
15:53:13.065 JACK s'arrête...
Jack main caught signal 15


Le résultat de la commande lsof | grep /snd :
qjackctl  5441                  user   21u      CHR              116,1       0t0        444 /dev/snd/seq
QXcbEvent 5441 5442             user   21u      CHR              116,1       0t0        444 /dev/snd/seq
gmain     5441 5443             user   21u      CHR              116,1       0t0        444 /dev/snd/seq
gdbus     5441 5444             user   21u      CHR              116,1       0t0        444 /dev/snd/seq
QDBusConn 5441 5445             user   21u      CHR              116,1       0t0        444 /dev/snd/seq
jackd     5470                  user  mem       CHR              116,3                  468 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
jackd     5470                  user  mem       CHR              116,4                  469 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
jackd     5470                  user    4u      CHR              116,2       0t0        467 /dev/snd/controlC0
jackd     5470                  user    6u      CHR              116,3       0t0        468 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
jackd     5470                  user    7u      CHR              116,4       0t0        469 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
jackd     5470 5474             user  mem       CHR              116,3                  468 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
jackd     5470 5474             user  mem       CHR              116,4                  469 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
jackd     5470 5474             user    4u      CHR              116,2       0t0        467 /dev/snd/controlC0
jackd     5470 5474             user    6u      CHR              116,3       0t0        468 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
jackd     5470 5474             user    7u      CHR              116,4       0t0        469 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
jackd     5470 5475             user  mem       CHR              116,3                  468 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
jackd     5470 5475             user  mem       CHR              116,4                  469 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
jackd     5470 5475             user    4u      CHR              116,2       0t0        467 /dev/snd/controlC0
jackd     5470 5475             user    6u      CHR              116,3       0t0        468 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
jackd     5470 5475             user    7u      CHR              116,4       0t0        469 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
jackd     5470 5476             user  mem       CHR              116,3                  468 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
jackd     5470 5476             user  mem       CHR              116,4                  469 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
jackd     5470 5476             user    4u      CHR              116,2       0t0        467 /dev/snd/controlC0
jackd     5470 5476             user    6u      CHR              116,3       0t0        468 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
jackd     5470 5476             user    7u      CHR              116,4       0t0        469 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c


Rien d'anormal...

J'ai tenté un peu tout les tutos que j'ai pu trouver mais sans réulstat. J'ai besoin d'aide pour continuer à faire de la MAO si quelqu'un a une idée je suis preneur.

Merci d'avance,
Boson197.

PS: voici mon Qjackctl.conf
[Defaults]
ConnectionsTabPage=0
MessagesStatusTabPage=0
PatchbayPath=
SessionSaveVersion=true

[Geometry]
qjackctlConnectionsForm\geometry=@ByteArray(\x1\xd9\xd0\xcb\0\x2\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\x1e\0\0\x1\xdf\0\0\x1]\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\x1e\0\0\x1\xdf\0\0\x1]\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\a\x80)
qjackctlConnectionsForm\visible=false
qjackctlMainForm\geometry=@ByteArray(\x1\xd9\xd0\xcb\0\x2\0\0\0\0\x3\xbd\0\0\0\xee\0\0\x5\xd3\0\0\x1o\0\0\x3\xbe\0\0\x1\b\0\0\x5\xd2\0\0\x1n\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\a\x80)
qjackctlMainForm\visible=true
qjackctlMessagesStatusForm\geometry=@ByteArray(\x1\xd9\xd0\xcb\0\x2\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\x1e\0\0\a\x7f\0\0\x4\x37\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\x38\0\0\a\x7f\0\0\x4\x37\0\0\0\0\x2\0\0\0\a\x80)
qjackctlMessagesStatusForm\visible=true
qjackctlPatchbayForm\geometry=@ByteArray(\x1\xd9\xd0\xcb\0\x2\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\x1e\0\0\x2\a\0\0\x1]\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\x1e\0\0\x2\a\0\0\x1]\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\a\x80)
qjackctlPatchbayForm\visible=false
qjackctlSessionForm\geometry=@ByteArray(\x1\xd9\xd0\xcb\0\x2\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\x1e\0\0\x1\xdf\0\0\x1]\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\x1e\0\0\x1\xdf\0\0\x1]\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\a\x80)
qjackctlSessionForm\visible=false

[History]
MessagesLogPathComboBox\Item1=qjackctl.log
ServerConfigNameComboBox\Item1=.jackdrc
ServerNameComboBox\Item1=(default)
ServerPrefixComboBox\Item1=/usr/bin/jackd
ServerPrefixComboBox\Item2=jackd
ServerPrefixComboBox\Item3=jackdmp
ServerPrefixComboBox\Item4=jackstart
XrunRegexComboBox\Item1=xrun of at least ([0-9|\\.]+) msecs
XrunRegexComboBox\Item2=d\xe9synchronisation (XRUN) d'au moins ([0-9|\\.]+) ms

[Options]
ActivePatchbay=false
ActivePatchbayPath=
ActivePatchbayReset=false
AliasesEditing=false
AliasesEnabled=false
AlsaSeqEnabled=true
BaseFontSize=0
BezierLines=false
ConnectionsFont="Sans Serif,10,-1,5,75,0,0,0,0,0"
ConnectionsIconSize=0
DBusEnabled=false
DisplayBlink=true
DisplayEffect=true
DisplayFont1="Sans Serif,12,-1,5,75,0,0,0,0,0"
DisplayFont2="Sans Serif,6,-1,5,75,0,0,0,0,0"
JackClientPortAlias=0
JackClientPortMetadata=false
JackDBusEnabled=false
KeepOnTop=false
LeftButtons=true
MessagesFont="Monospace,8,-1,5,75,0,0,0,0,0"
MessagesLimit=true
MessagesLimitLines=1000
MessagesLog=false
MessagesLogPath=qjackctl.log
PostShutdownScript=false
PostShutdownScriptShell=
PostStartupScript=false
PostStartupScriptShell=
QueryClose=true
QueryDisconnect=true
QueryShutdown=true
RightButtons=true
ServerConfig=true
ServerConfigName=.jackdrc
ServerConfigTemp=false
ShutdownScript=false
ShutdownScriptShell=
Singleton=true
StartJack=false
StartMinimized=false
StartupScript=false
StartupScriptShell=
StdoutCapture=true
StopJack=true
SystemTray=false
SystemTrayQueryClose=true
TextLabels=true
TimeDisplay=0
TimeFormat=0
TransportButtons=true
XrunRegex=xrun of at least ([0-9|\\.]+) msecs

[Presets]
DefPreset=(default)

[Program]
Version=0.4.5

[Settings]
Audio=0
Chan=0
Dither=0
Driver=alsa
Frames=256
HWMeter=false
HWMon=false
IgnoreHW=false
InChannels=0
InDevice=
InLatency=0
Interface=hw:PCH
MidiDriver=aucun
Monitor=false
NoMemLock=false
OutChannels=0
OutDevice=
OutLatency=0
Periods=2
PortMax=256
Priority=70
Realtime=true
SampleRate=48000
Server=/usr/bin/jackd
ServerName=
ServerSuffix=
Shorts=false
SoftMode=false
StartDelay=2
Timeout=500
UnlockMem=false
Verbose=false
Wait=21333
WordLength=16

[Splitter]
AlsaConnectView\sizes=38, 20, 38
AudioConnectView\sizes=269, 90, 269
InfraClientSplitter\sizes=13, 13
MidiConnectView\sizes=38, 20, 38
PatchbayView\sizes=38, 20, 38


olinuxx utilisateur non connecté France
Essaie (jack/qjackctl/... éteints) de virer les fichiers de configuration (suggestion de les renommer les plutôt que de les effacer tout de suite) : ~/.config/rncbc.org/QjackCtl.conf et ~/.jackdrc
Relance tout le gourbi ensuite.

Boson197 utilisateur non connecté
Merci de considérer mon problème.

J'ai effacé les fichiers de configurations voila ce que cela donne :

17:22:35.326 Réinitialisation des statistiques.
17:22:35.331 Changement des connexions ALSA.
17:22:35.358 DBUS : le service est disponible (org.jackaudio.service soit jackdbus).
Cannot connect to server socket err = Connexion refusée
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
17:22:35.380 Changement du graphique des connexions ALSA.
17:23:02.534 DBUS : impossible de démarrer le serveur JACK. Désolé
Tue Dec 26 17:22:37 2017: Starting jack server...
Tue Dec 26 17:22:37 2017: JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10
Tue Dec 26 17:22:37 2017: self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"
Tue Dec 26 17:22:37 2017: Acquired audio card Audio0
Tue Dec 26 17:22:37 2017: creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
Tue Dec 26 17:22:37 2017: configuring for 44100Hz, period = 1024 frames (23.2 ms), buffer = 2 periods
Tue Dec 26 17:22:37 2017: ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer little-endian
Tue Dec 26 17:22:37 2017: ALSA: use 2 periods for capture
Tue Dec 26 17:22:37 2017: ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit integer little-endian
Tue Dec 26 17:22:37 2017: ALSA: use 2 periods for playback
Tue Dec 26 17:22:42 2017: ERROR: JackPosixProcessSync::LockedTimedWait error usec = 5000000 err = Connection timed out
Tue Dec 26 17:22:42 2017: ERROR: Driver is not running
Tue Dec 26 17:22:42 2017: ERROR: Cannot open client name = dbusapi
Tue Dec 26 17:22:42 2017: ERROR: failed to create dbusapi jack client
Tue Dec 26 17:22:42 2017: ERROR: Unknown request 4294967295
Tue Dec 26 17:22:42 2017: ERROR: CheckSize error size = 0 Size() = 12
Tue Dec 26 17:22:42 2017: ERROR: CheckRead error
Cannot connect to server socket err = Connexion refusée
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
17:23:11.869 Impossible de connecter le serveur JACK comme client. - L'opération a échoué. - Erreur de communication serveur. Veuillez consulter la fenêtre des messages pour plus d'informations.
Cannot read socket fd = 33 err = Succès
CheckRes error
JackSocketClientChannel read fail
Cannot open qjackctl client
JackShmReadWritePtr1::~JackShmReadWritePtr1 - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
Tue Dec 26 17:23:11 2017: ERROR: JackPosixProcessSync::LockedTimedWait error usec = 5000000 err = Connection timed out
Tue Dec 26 17:23:11 2017: ERROR: Driver is not running
Tue Dec 26 17:23:11 2017: ERROR: Cannot create new client
Tue Dec 26 17:23:11 2017: ERROR: Unknown request 4294967295
Tue Dec 26 17:23:11 2017: ERROR: CheckSize error size = 0 Size() = 12
Tue Dec 26 17:23:11 2017: ERROR: CheckRead error


Par contre :

jackd -sRp 70 -d alsa -d hw:0 -r 44100 -H -z s &
[1] 2926
$ jackdmp 1.9.11
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2014 Grame.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
no message buffer overruns
no message buffer overruns
no message buffer overruns
JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10
self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"
audio_reservation_init
Acquire audio card Audio0
creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|44100|0|0|hwmon|swmeter|-|32bit
configuring for 44100Hz, period = 1024 frames (23.2 ms), buffer = 2 periods
ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer little-endian
ALSA: use 2 periods for capture
ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit integer little-endian
ALSA: use 2 periods for playback


et :

$ jack_control start
--- start
DBus exception: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.


olinuxx utilisateur non connecté France
Bizarre, pourtant il semble que jack soit démarré de la même façon :

hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit


et

creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|44100|0|0|hwmon|swmeter|-|32bit


T'aurais pas des trucs dans les scripts de démarrage de qjackctl par hasard ?

sardonicus utilisateur non connecté France
S'il démarre en ligne de commande, c'est les options de qjackctl qui foutent le dawa. Renomme aussi ~/.config/jack/conf.xml en ~/.config/jack/conf.xml-bak et relance qjackctl pour voir ce que ça donne.

Boson197 utilisateur non connecté
Bonjour,

Après vos modifications voila ce que cela donne ( j'ai aussi enlevé les options D-Bus dans qjackctl )

12:07:17.029 Réinitialisation des statistiques.
12:07:17.032 Changement des connexions ALSA.
12:07:17.057 DBUS : le service est disponible (org.jackaudio.service soit jackdbus).
Cannot connect to server socket err = Connexion refusée
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
12:07:17.081 Changement du graphique des connexions ALSA.
12:07:44.246 DBUS : impossible de démarrer le serveur JACK. Désolé
Wed Dec 27 12:07:18 2017: Starting jack server...
Wed Dec 27 12:07:18 2017: JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10
Wed Dec 27 12:07:18 2017: self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"
Wed Dec 27 12:07:19 2017: Acquired audio card Audio0
Wed Dec 27 12:07:19 2017: creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
Wed Dec 27 12:07:19 2017: configuring for 44100Hz, period = 1024 frames (23.2 ms), buffer = 2 periods
Wed Dec 27 12:07:19 2017: ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer little-endian
Wed Dec 27 12:07:19 2017: ALSA: use 2 periods for capture
Wed Dec 27 12:07:19 2017: ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit integer little-endian
Wed Dec 27 12:07:19 2017: ALSA: use 2 periods for playback
Wed Dec 27 12:07:24 2017: ERROR: JackPosixProcessSync::LockedTimedWait error usec = 5000000 err = Connection timed out
Wed Dec 27 12:07:24 2017: ERROR: Driver is not running
Wed Dec 27 12:07:24 2017: ERROR: Cannot open client name = dbusapi
Wed Dec 27 12:07:24 2017: ERROR: failed to create dbusapi jack client
Wed Dec 27 12:07:24 2017: ERROR: Unknown request 4294967295
Wed Dec 27 12:07:24 2017: ERROR: CheckSize error size = 0 Size() = 12
Wed Dec 27 12:07:24 2017: ERROR: CheckRead error
Cannot connect to server socket err = Connexion refusée
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
12:07:53.233 Impossible de connecter le serveur JACK comme client. - L'opération a échoué. - Erreur de communication serveur. Veuillez consulter la fenêtre des messages pour plus d'informations.
Cannot read socket fd = 33 err = Succès
CheckRes error
JackSocketClientChannel read fail
Cannot open qjackctl client
JackShmReadWritePtr1::~JackShmReadWritePtr1 - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
Wed Dec 27 12:07:53 2017: ERROR: JackPosixProcessSync::LockedTimedWait error usec = 5000000 err = Connection timed out
Wed Dec 27 12:07:53 2017: ERROR: Driver is not running
Wed Dec 27 12:07:53 2017: ERROR: Cannot create new client
Wed Dec 27 12:07:53 2017: ERROR: Unknown request 4294967295
Wed Dec 27 12:07:53 2017: ERROR: CheckSize error size = 0 Size() = 12
Wed Dec 27 12:07:53 2017: ERROR: CheckRead error


Sinon je peux utiliser jackd en ligne de commande mais une fois démarré comment je connecte mes logiciels entre-eux ?

Boson197 utilisateur non connecté
Il semblerait que ce soit un problème avec jackdbus car je retrouve les même problèmes que précédements avec gladish (jackdbus.log)

Wed Dec 27 14:08:52 2017: ------------------
Wed Dec 27 14:08:52 2017: Controller activated. Version 1.9.11 (unknown) built on Wed Oct 11 10:09:40 2017
Wed Dec 27 14:08:52 2017: Loading settings from "~/.config/jack/conf.xml" using expat_2.2.3 ...
Wed Dec 27 14:08:52 2017: setting parameter 'engine':'driver':'(null)' to value "alsa"
Wed Dec 27 14:08:52 2017: setting parameter 'engine':'realtime-priority':'(null)' to value "85"
Wed Dec 27 14:08:52 2017: setting parameter 'engine':'verbose':'(null)' to value "true"
Wed Dec 27 14:08:52 2017: Listening for D-Bus messages
Wed Dec 27 14:11:19 2017: Saving settings to "/home/user/.config/jack/conf.xml" ...
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Starting jack server...
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 85
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackPosixThread::StartImp : create non RT thread
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackPosixThread::ThreadHandler : start
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: playback device hw:PCH,0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: capture device hw:PCH,0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: apparent rate = 48000
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackDriver::Open capture_driver_name = hw:PCH,0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackDriver::Open playback_driver_name = hw:PCH,0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: Check protocol client = 8 server = 8
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientInternalOpen: name = system
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackEngine::AllocateRefNum ref = 0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackPosixSemaphore::Allocate name = jack_sem.1000_default_system val = 0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackEngine::NotifyAddClient: name = system
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackGraphManager::SetBufferSize size = 1024
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackConnectionManager::DirectConnect first: ref1 = 0 ref2 = 0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackGraphManager::ConnectRefNum cur_index = 0 ref1 = 0 ref2 = 0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackDriver::SetupDriverSync driver sem in flush mode
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Acquired audio card Audio0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: creating alsa driver ... -|hw:PCH,0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|soft-mode|32bit
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames (21.3 ms), buffer = 2 periods
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer little-endian
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: ALSA: use 2 periods for capture
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackSocketServerChannel::Open
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackServerSocket::Bind : addr.sun_path /dev/shm/jack_default_1000_0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackSocketServerChannel::BuildPoolTable size = 1
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackEngine::Open
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackClientSocket::Connect : addr.sun_path /dev/shm/jack_default_1000_0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientInternalOpen: name = freewheel
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackEngine::AllocateRefNum ref = 1
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackPosixSemaphore::Allocate name = jack_sem.1000_default_freewheel val = 0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackEngine::NotifyAddClient: name = freewheel
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackDriver::ClientNotify ref = 1 driver = system name = freewheel notify = 0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackDriver::ClientNotify ref = 0 driver = freewheel name = system notify = 0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackConnectionManager::DirectConnect first: ref1 = 1 ref2 = 1
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackGraphManager::ConnectRefNum cur_index = 0 ref1 = 1 ref2 = 1
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackDriver::SetupDriverSync driver sem in flush mode
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackGraphManager::SetBufferSize size = 1024
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackAlsaDriver::Attach fBufferSize 1024 fSampleRate 48000
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackEngine::PortRegister ref = 0 name = system:capture_1 type = 32 bit float mono audio flags = 22 buffer_size = 1024
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackGraphManager::AllocatePortAux port_index = 1 name = system:capture_1 type = 32 bit float mono audio
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackConnectionManager::AddOutputPort ref = 0 port = 1
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientNotify: no callback for notification = 9
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientNotify: no callback for notification = 9
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackAlsaDriver::Attach fCapturePortList[i] 1 
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackEngine::PortRegister ref = 0 name = system:capture_2 type = 32 bit float mono audio flags = 22 buffer_size = 1024
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackGraphManager::AllocatePortAux port_index = 2 name = system:capture_2 type = 32 bit float mono audio
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackConnectionManager::AddOutputPort ref = 0 port = 2
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientNotify: no callback for notification = 9
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientNotify: no callback for notification = 9
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackAlsaDriver::Attach fCapturePortList[i] 2 
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: Clock source : system clock via clock_gettime
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackServer::Start
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackThreadedDriver::Start
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackPosixThread::StartImp : create non RT thread
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackPosixThread::ThreadHandler : start
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackThreadedDriver::Init real-time
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackPosixThread::AcquireRealTimeImp priority = 85
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackPosixThread::StartImp : create non RT thread
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: jack_client_open dbusapi
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackInternalClient::Open name = dbusapi
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: Check protocol client = 8 server = 8
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientInternalOpen: name = dbusapi
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackPosixThread::ThreadHandler : start
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackSocketServerChannel::ClientCreate socket
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackSocketServerChannel::BuildPoolTable size = 2
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackSocketServerChannel::BuildPoolTable fSocketTable i = 1 fd = 9
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackEngine::AllocateRefNum ref = 2
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackPosixSemaphore::Allocate name = jack_sem.1000_default_dbusapi val = 0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:24 2017: Jack: JackPosixProcessSync::TimedWait time out = 5000000
Wed Dec 27 14:11:29 2017: ERROR: JackPosixProcessSync::LockedTimedWait error usec = 5000000 err = Connection timed out
Wed Dec 27 14:11:29 2017: Jack: JackPosixProcessSync::TimedWait finished delta = 5000209.0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:29 2017: ERROR: Driver is not running
Wed Dec 27 14:11:29 2017: Jack: JackPosixSemaphore::Destroy name = jack_sem.1000_default_dbusapi
Wed Dec 27 14:11:29 2017: ERROR: Cannot open client name = dbusapi
Wed Dec 27 14:11:29 2017: ERROR: failed to create dbusapi jack client
Wed Dec 27 14:11:29 2017: Jack: JackServer::Stop
Wed Dec 27 14:11:29 2017: Jack: JackThreadedDriver::Stop
Wed Dec 27 14:11:29 2017: Jack: JackPosixThread::Stop
Wed Dec 27 14:11:34 2017: Jack: JackSocketServerChannel::Execute : fPollTable i = 1 fd = 9
Wed Dec 27 14:11:44 2017: Jack: JackSocketServerChannel::Execute : fPollTable i = 1 fd = 9
Wed Dec 27 14:11:54 2017: Jack: JackSocketServerChannel::Execute : fPollTable i = 1 fd = 9
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: ERROR: ALSA: poll time out, polled for 31999024 usecs
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: ERROR: JackAudioDriver::ProcessAsync: read error, stopping...
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackPosixThread::ThreadHandler : exit
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackSocketServerChannel::Execute : fPollTable i = 1 fd = 9
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackPosixThread::Stop
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackRequest::Notification
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackRequest::Notification kQUIT
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackSocketServerChannel::Execute : JackQuitException
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackPosixThread::ThreadHandler : exit
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientNotify: no callback for notification = 15
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientNotify: no callback for notification = 15
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackServer::Close
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackServerSocket::Close /dev/shm/jack_default_1000_0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackClientSocket::Close
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackAudioDriver::Detach
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackEngine::PortUnRegister ref = 0 port_index = 1
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackEngine::PortDisconnect ref = -1 src = 1 dst = 65535
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackGraphManager::DisconnectAllOutput port_index = 1 
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackConnectionManager::RemoveOutputPort ref = 0 port_index = 1 
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientNotify: no callback for notification = 10
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientNotify: no callback for notification = 10
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackEngine::PortUnRegister ref = 0 port_index = 2
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackEngine::PortDisconnect ref = -1 src = 2 dst = 65535
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackGraphManager::DisconnectAllOutput port_index = 2 
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackConnectionManager::RemoveOutputPort ref = 0 port_index = 2 
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientNotify: no callback for notification = 10
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientNotify: no callback for notification = 10
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackDriver::Close
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackConnectionManager::DirectDisconnect last: ref1 = 0 ref2 = 0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackGraphManager::DisconnectRefNum cur_index = 0 ref1 = 0 ref2 = 0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientInternalClose ref = 0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientCloseAux ref = 0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackGraphManager::RemoveAllPorts ref = 0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackDriver::ClientNotify ref = 0 driver = freewheel name = system notify = 1
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackPosixSemaphore::Destroy name = jack_sem.1000_default_system
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Released audio card Audio0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackDriver::Close
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackConnectionManager::DirectDisconnect last: ref1 = 1 ref2 = 1
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackGraphManager::DisconnectRefNum cur_index = 0 ref1 = 1 ref2 = 1
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientInternalClose ref = 1
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackEngine::ClientCloseAux ref = 1
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackGraphManager::RemoveAllPorts ref = 1
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackPosixSemaphore::Destroy name = jack_sem.1000_default_freewheel
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackEngine::Close
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackClientSocket::Close
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: no message buffer overruns
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackPosixThread::Stop
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackPosixThread::ThreadHandler : exit
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: Succeeded in unlocking 82274202 byte memory area
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackShmMem::delete size = 0 index = 0
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: ~JackDriver
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: ~JackDriver
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: Succeeded in unlocking 1186 byte memory area
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: JackShmMem::delete size = 0 index = 1
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: Cleaning up shared memory
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: Cleaning up files
Wed Dec 27 14:11:56 2017: Jack: Unregistering server `default'


sardonicus utilisateur non connecté France
Tu as essayé en désactivant l'interface jack-dbus dans l'onglet divers des réglages de qjackctl?

Boson197 utilisateur non connecté
Toujours impossible de démarrer correctement :

16:15:52.262 Réinitialisation des statistiques.
16:15:52.265 Changement des connexions ALSA.
Cannot connect to server socket err = Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
16:15:52.307 Changement du graphique des connexions ALSA.
16:15:54.074 JACK démarre...
16:15:54.075 /usr/bin/jackd -dalsa -dhw:0 -r44100 -p1024 -n2
Cannot connect to server socket err = Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
no message buffer overruns
no message buffer overruns
no message buffer overruns
16:15:54.129 JACK a été démarré avec le PID=1839.
jackdmp 1.9.11
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2014 Grame.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10
self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"
audio_reservation_init
Acquire audio card Audio0
creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
configuring for 44100Hz, period = 1024 frames (23.2 ms), buffer = 2 periods
ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer little-endian
ALSA: use 2 periods for capture
ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit integer little-endian
ALSA: use 2 periods for playback
16:16:01.352 Impossible de connecter le serveur JACK comme client. - L'opération a échoué. - Erreur de communication serveur. Veuillez consulter la fenêtre des messages pour plus d'informations.
JackPosixProcessSync::LockedTimedWait error usec = 5000000 err = Connection timed out
Driver is not running
Cannot create new client
Cannot read socket fd = 23 err = Succès
CheckRes error
Cannot open qjackctl client
JackSocketClientChannel read fail
JackShmReadWritePtr1::~JackShmReadWritePtr1 - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
Unknown request 4294967295
CheckSize error size = 0 Size() = 12
CheckRead error
16:16:07.480 JACK s'arrête...
Jack main caught signal 15


~$ lsof | grep /snd
qjackctl  1941                  user   18u      CHR              116,1       0t0        444 /dev/snd/seq
QXcbEvent 1941 1942             user   18u      CHR              116,1       0t0        444 /dev/snd/seq
gmain     1941 1943             user   18u      CHR              116,1       0t0        444 /dev/snd/seq
gdbus     1941 1944             user   18u      CHR              116,1       0t0        444 /dev/snd/seq
QDBusConn 1941 1945             user   18u      CHR              116,1       0t0        444 /dev/snd/seq
qjackctl  1941 1955             user   18u      CHR              116,1       0t0        444 /dev/snd/seq
qjackctl  1941 1956             user   18u      CHR              116,1       0t0        444 /dev/snd/seq
jackd     1948                  user  mem       CHR              116,3                  513 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
jackd     1948                  user  mem       CHR              116,4                  514 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
jackd     1948                  user    4u      CHR              116,2       0t0        512 /dev/snd/controlC0
jackd     1948                  user    6u      CHR              116,3       0t0        513 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
jackd     1948                  user    7u      CHR              116,4       0t0        514 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
jackd     1948 1952             user  mem       CHR              116,3                  513 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
jackd     1948 1952             user  mem       CHR              116,4                  514 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
jackd     1948 1952             user    4u      CHR              116,2       0t0        512 /dev/snd/controlC0
jackd     1948 1952             user    6u      CHR              116,3       0t0        513 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
jackd     1948 1952             user    7u      CHR              116,4       0t0        514 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
jackd     1948 1953             user  mem       CHR              116,3                  513 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
jackd     1948 1953             user  mem       CHR              116,4                  514 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
jackd     1948 1953             user    4u      CHR              116,2       0t0        512 /dev/snd/controlC0
jackd     1948 1953             user    6u      CHR              116,3       0t0        513 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
jackd     1948 1953             user    7u      CHR              116,4       0t0        514 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
jackd     1948 1954             user  mem       CHR              116,3                  513 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
jackd     1948 1954             user  mem       CHR              116,4                  514 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
jackd     1948 1954             user    4u      CHR              116,2       0t0        512 /dev/snd/controlC0
jackd     1948 1954             user    6u      CHR              116,3       0t0        513 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
jackd     1948 1954             user    7u      CHR              116,4       0t0        514 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c


Ce serait un problème de connection à Jack (?). Parce que jackd fonctionne correctement.

Boson197 utilisateur non connecté
Bonjour à tous,

Problème résolu !! (sardonicus avait raison c'est les options qui foutent la mer***)

En fait je devais spécifier quel périphériques utiliser en entrée et en sortie dans l'onglet avancé de qjackctl (pas seulement l'interface dans l'onglet paramètre qui du coup se grise) ou en ligne de commande avec jack_control :

$ killall -9 jackdbus
$ killall -9 jackd
$ jack_control ds alsa
$ jack_control dps capture hw:1,0
$ jack_control dps playback hw:PCH,0
$ jack_control start
--- start
$


Et c'est bon :-)

13:45:49.420 Réinitialisation des statistiques.
13:45:49.430 Changement des connexions ALSA.
13:45:49.481 DBUS : le service est disponible (org.jackaudio.service soit jackdbus).
Cannot connect to server socket err = Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
13:45:49.507 Changement du graphique des connexions ALSA.
13:45:50.864 DBUS : le serveur JACK démarre…
13:45:50.876 DBUS : le serveur JACK a été démarré (org.jackaudio.service soit jackdbus).
Cannot connect to server socket err = Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295, skipping unlock
Fri Dec 29 13:45:50 2017: Starting jack server...
Fri Dec 29 13:45:50 2017: JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10
Fri Dec 29 13:45:50 2017: self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"
Fri Dec 29 13:45:50 2017: Acquired audio card Audio1
Fri Dec 29 13:45:50 2017: Acquired audio card Audio0
Fri Dec 29 13:45:50 2017: creating alsa driver ... hw:PCH,0|hw:C1U|512|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
Fri Dec 29 13:45:50 2017: configuring for 48000Hz, period = 512 frames (10.7 ms), buffer = 2 periods
Fri Dec 29 13:45:50 2017: ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 16bit little-endian
Fri Dec 29 13:45:50 2017: ALSA: use 2 periods for capture
Fri Dec 29 13:45:50 2017: ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit integer little-endian
Fri Dec 29 13:45:50 2017: ALSA: use 2 periods for playback
Fri Dec 29 13:45:50 2017: graph reorder: new port 'system:capture_1'
Fri Dec 29 13:45:50 2017: New client 'system' with PID 0
Fri Dec 29 13:45:50 2017: graph reorder: new port 'system:capture_2'
Fri Dec 29 13:45:50 2017: graph reorder: new port 'system:playback_1'
Fri Dec 29 13:45:50 2017: graph reorder: new port 'system:playback_2'
Fri Dec 29 13:45:51 2017: Saving settings to "/home/user/.config/jack/conf.xml" ...
13:45:52.941 Changement des connexions JACK.
13:45:52.942 Configuration du serveur enregistrée dans « /home/user/.jackdrc ».
13:45:52.943 Réinitialisation des statistiques.
13:45:52.956 Client activé.
13:45:52.957 Baie de brassage désactivée.
13:45:52.982 Changement du graphique des connexions JACK.
Fri Dec 29 13:45:52 2017: New client 'qjackctl' with PID 3644


Je poste ça au cas où cela arriverait à d'autres !

Merci à ceux qui m'ont aidé,
À bientôt,
Boson197.

sub26nico utilisateur non connecté France
Bien joué et bravo pour l'auto-résolution (avec l'aide de sardonicus bien sûr).
Note modération : le sujet étant résolu, merci d'ajouter un [RÉSOLU] (ou un [CONTOURNÉ], ou bien encore un [ABANDONNÉ]) dans le titre de ton premier message. Voir ce paragraphe du manuel du site pour davantage d'informations.



Jyves utilisateur non connecté France
Bonjour,
Je déterre un vieux sujet et le code de jackd à certainement changé depu

jujudusud utilisateur non connecté France
Bonjour Jyves,
Ce sujet a été noté comme résolu par son auteur. Normalement, et à moins que quelque chose se soit mal passé pour son auteur à la suite de la résolution, on ne revient pas dessus.
Tu parles de le déterrer un sujet mais tu semble avoir envoyé ton commentaire un peu vite.
Si tu as un problème avec Jack, je pense qu'il faut quetu ouvres un nouveau fil de discussion.

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